On the latest episode of Bloomberg’s Masters in Politics podcast hosts Tammy Haddad and Betsy Fischer Martin interviewed Neera Tanden, the President of the Center for American Progress, and Ana Navarro, CNN and Telemundo contributor.

Ana Navarro, whom the Miami Herald called “the voice of the outraged Republican women,” says there is no hope for Trump to win the White House. “The Republicans have lost the presidential race no matter what happens. It is a damn shame that somehow we managed to have nominated the only Republican candidate who could lose to Hillary Clinton. But it is what we did and we have to live with the consequences. And now that we know that, if you are a realist, you realize that we have got to focus on the down ballot candidates. We’ve gotta focus on keeping the House, we’ve gotta focus on keeping the Senate, because god only knows what the effect of Trump will be on some of those tight races for the Senate and even the House.”

Neera Tanden, whose emails were also leaked in the Wikileaks data dump, finds it suspicious that the email leaks were so well timed. “I do not think it’s a coincidence that the weekend before the Democratic convention they leaked out these e-mails at the DNC. and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that as their candidate is up against the ropes.Roger Stone said these emails were coming. How does Roger Stone know these emails are coming? He tells us he is directly connected with Wikileaks and Julian Assange. He also says he talks to Donald Trump. I’m not saying that Donald Trump is leaking these things. I think he’s the direct beneficiary and his response is to take a weakened position on a host of issues; for example, on NATO and the United States direct relationship with Russia.”

You can listen to the full interview here.